#035: How to get to better health with Jessica Curl

By Jordan Michaelides
October 11, 2017

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Jessica Curl ( @betterhealthwithjess ) is a functional diagnostic nutritionist, personal trainer, strength coach, former athlete, and now, owner of The Better Health Project.

When my former guest and now coach, Paul Creasey (@biodefined), recommended I interview Jess I thought I should sit up and pay attention to what she’s doing - particularly because she has incredible insight and knowledge when it comes to sleep.

My own experience with sleep and stress management began way back in 2012. Like some of you (25% in fact), I was experiencing debilitating generalised anxiety disorder. I remember going to hospital several times in an ambulance and it wasn’t until I was sitting in a hospital bed in the emergency unit, where both my dad and the resident doctor (who now knew me by first name) gave me a very frank conversation about lifestyle.

That whole period was really the catalyst for a chain of self improvement (particularly focused on the brain and body), and hence resulted in the eventual creation of Neuralle.

I know that statistically you’ve experienced anxiety at some point in your life, which is most often correlated with poor sleep and stress management. During my own self-discovery, I realised that sleep and stress are the bed-rock of your health, and it’s incredibly likely that you aren’t managing it correctly - in fact not many of our listeners are. 30% of the world is sleep deprived according to the WHO, and the effects are enormous (reducing our sleep by a third increases DNA damage by over 200%) .

There are over 82,000 results for “sleep” books on Amazon as of October 2017, and I’m absolutely sure that the majority carry on with old wives tales about everyone needing 8 hours sleep, that consuming a high dose of carbohydrates before bed helps, or drinking lots of water before bed is required.

We were originally considering writing an e-book for you and our listeners, but we instead decided that interviewing someone like Jess and sleep scientists, would be a better way of opening up your knowledge.
The importance of sleep cannot be underestimated. In our interview, Jess noted in a piece of peer-reviewed literature, that the longest known example of a person surviving without sleep is 18 days, and for surviving without food, is over a year.

Jess is incredibly knowledgeable when it comes to this area, and I know that this is a great way for you and I to start our research together.

In particular we covered:

  • What does Jess do?

  • Moving to Australia and life in the US

  • Rupturing her Achilles

  • Wellness & Western medicine

  • Health principles

  • The importance of sleep

  • Why sleep cycles are important

  • Sleep tracking, Oura ring and napping

  • Managing stress

  • Ideal sleeping environment

  • Why sex before sleep is important

  • Why adults are just giant babies {01:01:51}

  • People Jess learns from

  • The keto diet


Enjoy the episode, 
Jordan & Lauren





Show notes

  • Bio - what does Jess do? {08:35}

  • Moving to Australia and life in the US {09:52}

  • Lessons learnt from her parents {14:39}

  • On rupturing her Achilles {16:48}

  • Wellness & Western medicine {19:25}

  • Health principles {24:02}

  • The importance of sleep {31:18}

  • Why sleep cycles are important {40:38}

  • Sleep tracking, Oura rings and napping {42:00}

  • Managing stress {49:10}

  • Ideal sleeping environment {54:06}

  • Why sex before sleep is important {59:48}

  • Why adults are just giant babies {01:03:21}

  • People Jess learns from {01:05:19}

  • The keto diet {01:08:39}

  • Good resources for health info {01:14:39}

  • If Jess had to teach a group of students {01:18:33}

  • Current exercise routine {01:20:57}

  • Something she’s most proud of {01:23:42}

  • Best purchase under $250 {01:25:19}

  • Something she believes that most don’t {01:27:25}

  • If she could have a billboard anywhere {01:29:15}


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